Forgiveness: An Unpopular View | Episode 18


This week’s episode bares some resemblance to that feeling you got when your parents told you Santa doesn’t exist. Before we recorded, we had about an hour long conversation on racial reconciliation, which is sufficient to absolutely sap your emotions. Then we decided it was a good idea to record or show on an equally uplifting subject: forgiveness.

Preach It!

Every few months we hear a sermon on Matthew 5:23-24, which says “So if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there before the altar and go. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift.” The sermon typically takes the path that if you forgive those that have wronged and offended you, then you free yourself. Every time I hear it preached on, the implication is that forgiveness does and is more for you than the person being forgiven.

The problem is, that’s not the type of forgiveness we see God displaying.

I’m think it’s about, Forgiveness

Colossians 3:13 says, “bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive.” And while this scripture is directed at Christians for Christians, the big take away is that we forgive as God forgives. This episode is directed at that side of forgiveness. The side that is for the other person. That reveals the fruit of the Holy Spirt. It frees the other person and creates a path, as Jesus did, to be reconciled to God.

Bruce’s two blogs on forgiveness…

Forgiveness. Maybe it isn’t for You.

The Heart-wrenching Process of Forgiving

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Quick Fire g(O)dd Questions | Episode 16


For this episode Thomas and Bruce decided to not limit the show to one topic. Instead they came up with a list of questions and gave some quick-ish answers, then moved on. Here’s that list and their short answers.

Question 1

In your view, what are the top two issues facing The Church and Christianity today?


De-coupling politics from the core of Christianity and dealing with the old church (what the church has been) and the new church (what the church is becoming).


The way the church has defined community and confusion surrounding discipleship.

Question 2

Is there a crisis involving discipleship? Why or why not? Where should we pinpoint our attention?


Yes. We need to focus on what it means to follow.


Yes. We need to convince the average Christian that our focus should be on being discipled, versus our conversion.

Question 3

Between traditional church, home church and seeker-friendly church, what is authentic ecclesia?

Thomas explained the three different types of church. Bruce broke down authentic ecclesia and it’s long. But in a nutshell… starts in the home and builds genuine gospel centered missional community, moves toward multiple groups consistently gathering with each other to celebrate the good things of God and what he’s done, is doing and going to do and culminates with those individual communities impacting their close geographical areas for the Gospel.

Question 4

Is Sunday an effective platform for evangelism?


It’s an okay place, but not really the best place.


No. The corporate gathering should be focused on equipping the believer.

Question 5

What is one teaching that is burning inside you right now?


Forgiveness is not intended for your conscious.


Heart space, home space and life space and how institutional church does it backwards.

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